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thischarmingreader's review against another edition
3.0
I had really high expectations since I 100% adored Eleanor & Park and maybe that was unfair. I enjoyed this one - mostly. It was a little awkward and a leetle bit unbelievable, but I did enjoy most of the characters and a lot of the writing.
brands22's review against another edition
funny
lighthearted
slow-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? It's complicated
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
3.75
I love the incorporation of multiple worlds and the way Rainbow Rowell appealed to a particular kind of audience.
darbileigh's review against another edition
3.0
3.5 stars.
Aaaaand here are my thoughts, if you’re curious:
https://darbisfavoritethings.wordpress.com/2018/03/03/fangirl-by-rainbow-rowell/
Aaaaand here are my thoughts, if you’re curious:
https://darbisfavoritethings.wordpress.com/2018/03/03/fangirl-by-rainbow-rowell/
ayusolace3's review against another edition
1.0
3.5/10
jesus cristinho, o início é ok mas depois juro por deus nao deu p terminar de ler
pacing horrorendo
jesus cristinho, o início é ok mas depois juro por deus nao deu p terminar de ler
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athena21's review against another edition
1.0
I've got a lot of thoughts about Fangirl, so buckle in. While reading the book I made over 80 notes because every 5 pages Rowell wrote something else new and horrible that I felt the need to comment on. In quick summary, I hated all of the characters but Reagan, there wasn't any plot, and the writing is terrible. Carry On is way better because a) none of the characters from this book are in it and b) you can forget that Rowell's writing sucks because there are dragons and vampires.
The rest of the review will contain spoilers:
Here's what I liked:
- Fun names! Cather and Wren is stupid as all hell but I laughed when she explained it, Reagan was the worst president but makes a good first name, and I hated Jandro until I realised it's short for Alejandro and I think that's kind of fun
- I laughed like twice, so I guess that's good
- Rowell is the only writer I've ever known to use 'eyeteeth' instead of canines and I think that's fun
- Despite how much I hated it I finished it anyway so there's got to be something magical going on, although I genuinely couldn't tell you what it is
And here's the rants:
1. Why does Harry Potter exist in this universe???? I'm still so weirded out by this because it's a massive plot hole. No way would Gemma T Leslie be able to publish what is obviously Harry Potter fanfiction just 2 years after the first Harry Potter book came out. Why would Rowell put in all of the work to make a parody version of Harry Potter so she can talk a lot about it in this book and then STILL put Harry Potter in it. Stupid
2. When both Nick and Levi were introduced, I thought there would be a love triangle, and I was also convinced that Cath would end up with Nick. That's because a) she actually describes him in an attractive way (more on this later) and because b) they actually have chemistry and things in common. Imagine my rage when Nick is a douche and also written out of the book 35% in to only turn up in the last 5 pages again. I don't even get why he was there in the first place? I guess he's supposed to be part of Cath's arc or whatever but she doesn't really learn anything from him that she doesn't also get told by every other character in the book and it's just really weird to make him a major character and then write him out
3. Speaking of which, there isn't any plot. I didn't feel like any of the characters went anywhere. Yes, Cath makes up with her sister and gets a boyfriend but that isn't actual development. She's still the exact same person who writes fanfiction and talks like a child and is painfully anxious. There just wasn't any point to the book. The main plot seems to be this thing with her writing her own work, but a) if she really doesn't want to, she should just drop off the course. people can write as a hobby that is allowed! and b) she just spends the whole book complaining about having to write it, then writes it in the last 10 pages but entirely off page, and then wins and prize because she's perfect.
4. Continuing that point, Cath is a total Mary Sue. She gets into a junior-level writing class as a freshman because she's so perfect at writing (despite, apparently, hating to write her own material), has 20,000 readers on fanfiction.net.clone and Levi and Reagan both love her despite the fact that she is basically just horrible to them for the whole beginning of the novel.
5. At the beginning of Chapter 5 I wrote, 'If this girl doesn't end up diagnosed with anxiety I will riot.' Guess I need to riot then. I have a problem with the fact that Fangirl seems to make mental illness and important part of the novel, but doesn't seem to know what to do with it. Her father has bipolar disorder, which I don't know much about, but I do know that it's not great for her to call him 'crazy' a bunch. Also, when her Dad suggests that Wren talk to a counselor, it's made out like a bad thing and Cath stops him from making her do it. He, of all people, should know that that's helpful?? Why would you bother to talk about an important topic but then basically say there's no cure and you shouldn't talk to someone who could help you?? Also, Cath clearly has social anxiety and possible generalised anxiety too, but this is mostly treated as a character flaw rather than anything else. No, it isn't 'quirky' to be so scared of going to the dining hall that you only eat protein bars for a month. It's a problem, and she should have sought help. Instead, that aspect of her personality just sort of gets phased out through the book so that Rowell doesn't have to deal with it. Rather than being good representation of a character with anxiety it is actively detrimental!
'I'm scared of everything. And I'm crazy. Like maybe you think I'm a little crazy, but I only let people see the tip of my crazy iceberg.' Please stop Rainbow Rowell
6. This is a book about writing but Rainbow Rowell is not a good writer. In one three-page scene she uses rabbit and hare interchangeably. It takes 30 second to Google and work out that that's stupid. There are sections of Cath's writing throughout the book but, unfortunately, they are also written by Rainbow Rowell so they suck so I can't believe that Cath is a good writer. (How's 'out-sticking breasts' as a brilliant example of writing) Maybe her plotting is truly brilliant but I've read a lot of much better written fanfiction than this and I just can't believe she'd get that many readers and then win a prize
7. She describes Levi in the absolute weirdest way. To begin with, she keeps describing his mouth as 'doll-like'. Weird. Here's more - 'needy pink mouth'. 'little pink mouth'
In addition, as I said he is described very unattractively. 'His ten thousand smiles. And his forty-acre forehead'. Yeah, wow, I can see why she likes him great chemistry. This is first-person! This is her perspective of him! Another one - 'over-abundant forehead', 'his blue eyes were taking over his whole long face', 'Levi was thin and weedy'. At least she likes his eyebrows - she even says that they're 'pornographic' and mentions 'eyebrow-driven sex' so I guess good for her??
8. Cath and Levi have a 2-and-a-half year age gap, but unfortunately it feels like about 10 years which makes it very uncomfortable. Cath acts massively young and inexperienced, even referring to relationships as 'boy-girl stuff'. She seems uncomfortable with the topic of sex and doesn't even want to kiss him for the majority of the book. That's fine, but not ideal if you're, like, in a relationship with someone and it ends up feeling super weird when she does actually kiss him etc. later. When they (I assume?) have sex she tells him she wants to 'do stuff'. If you can't say sex don't have sex. In addition, Levi feels really old, and is much more mature. He has his own house, a truck, a job and also (somewhat comically) is balding. When Cath tells him that he feels much older, he says to not worry because 'you're legal'. That's creepy.
9. For a book that claims to be about and represent fan culture, it does a poor job. This is mostly based on other people's reviews honestly because I don't play a massive part in a lot of fan culture, but she just doesn't do well to give a realistic portrayal. Cath never interacts with any of her many online friends that she claims to have, and doesn't view her readers as part of a community with her, but as her own fans. She spends the whole book talking about how weird she is for being a 'creepy shut-in' and writing fanfiction. Also, it would be fun to mention some kind of fanfiction that isn't slash?
10. This brings me on to my last point. I think Fangirl has problems with fetishization of gay characters and relationships. She spends the whole book writing about gay characters, but there is not a single actual gay person in this book. When they have (again I assume?) sex, Levi gets her to read her gay fanfiction to him. This is basically a book about someone who is an obsessive Drarry fan. Please stop. And, here's the kicker - she says, 'I feel weird reading this mushy gay stuff out loud - your roommates are here. Is one of them gay?' Hmm Cath, if you feel weird reading your gay fanfiction where a gay person might here it, maybe you need to reconsider what you've written.
The rest of the review will contain spoilers:
Spoiler
Here's what I liked:
- Fun names! Cather and Wren is stupid as all hell but I laughed when she explained it, Reagan was the worst president but makes a good first name, and I hated Jandro until I realised it's short for Alejandro and I think that's kind of fun
- I laughed like twice, so I guess that's good
- Rowell is the only writer I've ever known to use 'eyeteeth' instead of canines and I think that's fun
- Despite how much I hated it I finished it anyway so there's got to be something magical going on, although I genuinely couldn't tell you what it is
And here's the rants:
1. Why does Harry Potter exist in this universe???? I'm still so weirded out by this because it's a massive plot hole. No way would Gemma T Leslie be able to publish what is obviously Harry Potter fanfiction just 2 years after the first Harry Potter book came out. Why would Rowell put in all of the work to make a parody version of Harry Potter so she can talk a lot about it in this book and then STILL put Harry Potter in it. Stupid
2. When both Nick and Levi were introduced, I thought there would be a love triangle, and I was also convinced that Cath would end up with Nick. That's because a) she actually describes him in an attractive way (more on this later) and because b) they actually have chemistry and things in common. Imagine my rage when Nick is a douche and also written out of the book 35% in to only turn up in the last 5 pages again. I don't even get why he was there in the first place? I guess he's supposed to be part of Cath's arc or whatever but she doesn't really learn anything from him that she doesn't also get told by every other character in the book and it's just really weird to make him a major character and then write him out
3. Speaking of which, there isn't any plot. I didn't feel like any of the characters went anywhere. Yes, Cath makes up with her sister and gets a boyfriend but that isn't actual development. She's still the exact same person who writes fanfiction and talks like a child and is painfully anxious. There just wasn't any point to the book. The main plot seems to be this thing with her writing her own work, but a) if she really doesn't want to, she should just drop off the course. people can write as a hobby that is allowed! and b) she just spends the whole book complaining about having to write it, then writes it in the last 10 pages but entirely off page, and then wins and prize because she's perfect.
4. Continuing that point, Cath is a total Mary Sue. She gets into a junior-level writing class as a freshman because she's so perfect at writing (despite, apparently, hating to write her own material), has 20,000 readers on fanfiction.net.clone and Levi and Reagan both love her despite the fact that she is basically just horrible to them for the whole beginning of the novel.
5. At the beginning of Chapter 5 I wrote, 'If this girl doesn't end up diagnosed with anxiety I will riot.' Guess I need to riot then. I have a problem with the fact that Fangirl seems to make mental illness and important part of the novel, but doesn't seem to know what to do with it. Her father has bipolar disorder, which I don't know much about, but I do know that it's not great for her to call him 'crazy' a bunch. Also, when her Dad suggests that Wren talk to a counselor, it's made out like a bad thing and Cath stops him from making her do it. He, of all people, should know that that's helpful?? Why would you bother to talk about an important topic but then basically say there's no cure and you shouldn't talk to someone who could help you?? Also, Cath clearly has social anxiety and possible generalised anxiety too, but this is mostly treated as a character flaw rather than anything else. No, it isn't 'quirky' to be so scared of going to the dining hall that you only eat protein bars for a month. It's a problem, and she should have sought help. Instead, that aspect of her personality just sort of gets phased out through the book so that Rowell doesn't have to deal with it. Rather than being good representation of a character with anxiety it is actively detrimental!
'I'm scared of everything. And I'm crazy. Like maybe you think I'm a little crazy, but I only let people see the tip of my crazy iceberg.' Please stop Rainbow Rowell
6. This is a book about writing but Rainbow Rowell is not a good writer. In one three-page scene she uses rabbit and hare interchangeably. It takes 30 second to Google and work out that that's stupid. There are sections of Cath's writing throughout the book but, unfortunately, they are also written by Rainbow Rowell so they suck so I can't believe that Cath is a good writer. (How's 'out-sticking breasts' as a brilliant example of writing) Maybe her plotting is truly brilliant but I've read a lot of much better written fanfiction than this and I just can't believe she'd get that many readers and then win a prize
7. She describes Levi in the absolute weirdest way. To begin with, she keeps describing his mouth as 'doll-like'. Weird. Here's more - 'needy pink mouth'. 'little pink mouth'
In addition, as I said he is described very unattractively. 'His ten thousand smiles. And his forty-acre forehead'. Yeah, wow, I can see why she likes him great chemistry. This is first-person! This is her perspective of him! Another one - 'over-abundant forehead', 'his blue eyes were taking over his whole long face', 'Levi was thin and weedy'. At least she likes his eyebrows - she even says that they're 'pornographic' and mentions 'eyebrow-driven sex' so I guess good for her??
8. Cath and Levi have a 2-and-a-half year age gap, but unfortunately it feels like about 10 years which makes it very uncomfortable. Cath acts massively young and inexperienced, even referring to relationships as 'boy-girl stuff'. She seems uncomfortable with the topic of sex and doesn't even want to kiss him for the majority of the book. That's fine, but not ideal if you're, like, in a relationship with someone and it ends up feeling super weird when she does actually kiss him etc. later. When they (I assume?) have sex she tells him she wants to 'do stuff'. If you can't say sex don't have sex. In addition, Levi feels really old, and is much more mature. He has his own house, a truck, a job and also (somewhat comically) is balding. When Cath tells him that he feels much older, he says to not worry because 'you're legal'. That's creepy.
9. For a book that claims to be about and represent fan culture, it does a poor job. This is mostly based on other people's reviews honestly because I don't play a massive part in a lot of fan culture, but she just doesn't do well to give a realistic portrayal. Cath never interacts with any of her many online friends that she claims to have, and doesn't view her readers as part of a community with her, but as her own fans. She spends the whole book talking about how weird she is for being a 'creepy shut-in' and writing fanfiction. Also, it would be fun to mention some kind of fanfiction that isn't slash?
10. This brings me on to my last point. I think Fangirl has problems with fetishization of gay characters and relationships. She spends the whole book writing about gay characters, but there is not a single actual gay person in this book. When they have (again I assume?) sex, Levi gets her to read her gay fanfiction to him. This is basically a book about someone who is an obsessive Drarry fan. Please stop. And, here's the kicker - she says, 'I feel weird reading this mushy gay stuff out loud - your roommates are here. Is one of them gay?' Hmm Cath, if you feel weird reading your gay fanfiction where a gay person might here it, maybe you need to reconsider what you've written.
saralanca95's review against another edition
5.0
This is without a doubt the best contemporary book I have read!!!
Through out the book, the thing that made me really love the story and feel really connected was how grounded and how much of a fangirl Cath is.
She is not the typical girl who is super brave, wild, fearless and just takes a chance and life runs perfectly. She is real. She has anxiety, she actually stops herself form doing a lot of things because of it and she ends up missing a lot in life. I like that because it gives you an outside perspective of what it is like to live with anxiety and, at least for me, it made me realize that a lot of the times we just make the situation much worse than it actually is in our heads, and if we just took a change everything would be fine. Seeing the world trough Cath's eyes made me realize how much alike we are and actually made want to be a little bit more brave. And the best part is that she didn't overcome this fears over night and out of the sudden she's superwoman; it takes her time and a lot of encouragement from her friends.
The second thing that I love about Cath is her passion for fanfiction. I think all of us here at GR will identify with her at that level. In some way or another we're all fans of some story or world or characters. She as such passion about and she is actually able to share that with people that might not exactly understand her (which is something we've all been through). It just brought me back to so many memories that I have of Harry Potter or the Shadowhunters, and I could actually see myself in some of the situations. Basically, Cath is the character that I see the most of myself in.
This are all things that I noticed and loved while reading the book, but by the time I was reading the last 2 or 3 chapters I realized what I really loved about this story. It wasn't filled with clichés. There was no insta-love, there was no oh-i'm-gonna-lose-my-virginity-and-it's-gonna-be-like-a-fairytale stuff, there was no sudden tragedy or death to make the ending more touching, there was no epic love story (just a realistic one, thank god).... On and all it was the best plot line in a contemporary book ever, for me of course, also, bear in mind that I haven't read that much contemporary books yet ;)
I just can't find any flaws.... I wish this was like a 10 books series or something... I just wanna keep reading about these characters....
Through out the book, the thing that made me really love the story and feel really connected was how grounded and how much of a fangirl Cath is.
She is not the typical girl who is super brave, wild, fearless and just takes a chance and life runs perfectly. She is real. She has anxiety, she actually stops herself form doing a lot of things because of it and she ends up missing a lot in life. I like that because it gives you an outside perspective of what it is like to live with anxiety and, at least for me, it made me realize that a lot of the times we just make the situation much worse than it actually is in our heads, and if we just took a change everything would be fine. Seeing the world trough Cath's eyes made me realize how much alike we are and actually made want to be a little bit more brave. And the best part is that she didn't overcome this fears over night and out of the sudden she's superwoman; it takes her time and a lot of encouragement from her friends.
The second thing that I love about Cath is her passion for fanfiction. I think all of us here at GR will identify with her at that level. In some way or another we're all fans of some story or world or characters. She as such passion about and she is actually able to share that with people that might not exactly understand her (which is something we've all been through). It just brought me back to so many memories that I have of Harry Potter or the Shadowhunters, and I could actually see myself in some of the situations. Basically, Cath is the character that I see the most of myself in.
This are all things that I noticed and loved while reading the book, but by the time I was reading the last 2 or 3 chapters I realized what I really loved about this story. It wasn't filled with clichés. There was no insta-love, there was no oh-i'm-gonna-lose-my-virginity-and-it's-gonna-be-like-a-fairytale stuff, there was no sudden tragedy or death to make the ending more touching, there was no epic love story (just a realistic one, thank god).... On and all it was the best plot line in a contemporary book ever, for me of course, also, bear in mind that I haven't read that much contemporary books yet ;)
I just can't find any flaws.... I wish this was like a 10 books series or something... I just wanna keep reading about these characters....
danibren's review against another edition
5.0
THERE WERE SO MANY THINGS THAT I LOVED ABOUT THIS BOOK !!¡¡
Levi was perfection ❤️❤️❤️
Levi was perfection ❤️❤️❤️
foosahk's review against another edition
5.0
Very fun read! Many fangirls can relate to the obsessive need the character felt... A very cute coming of age story that teenage fangirls must read and older ones would giggle over!
harvestmoonshine's review against another edition
funny
inspiring
lighthearted
fast-paced
- Plot- or character-driven? Character
- Strong character development? Yes
- Loveable characters? Yes
- Diverse cast of characters? No
- Flaws of characters a main focus? Yes
4.0
jueedhar's review against another edition
2.0
ehhhh.
would have liked it better if i read it like 5 yrs back though. the protagonist reminded me of a friend of mine, hence the 3 star.
would have liked it better if i read it like 5 yrs back though. the protagonist reminded me of a friend of mine, hence the 3 star.